Comments on: Second Range Report: Taurus PT111 Revisited; & 200th Post!!! http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/2007/07/22/second-range-report-taurus-pt111-revisited-200th-post/ Aristotelian-Liberal Political Philosophy Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:37:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Geoffrey Allan Plauche http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/2007/07/22/second-range-report-taurus-pt111-revisited-200th-post/comment-page-1/#comment-115 Geoffrey Allan Plauche Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:18:00 +0000 http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/?p=202#comment-115 Thanks Mart.<br/><br/>I stopped using that cheap Russian ammo and only use WWB for practice and top-brand hollow points for personal defense. I haven't had any problems in a while, so whether it was (a) cheap ammo, (b) not cleaning it well enough, (c) limp wristing, (d) the gun just needed to be broken in, or (e) some combination of the above, the gun seems to be working far better now. I don't think it was a serious design or production flaw that needed repairing by Taurus.<br/><br/>In any event, I'm not sure if or how long I'll be keeping this gun. I want to get an HK P2000 SK because it is one of the few truly ambidextrous pistols on the market. Thanks Mart.

I stopped using that cheap Russian ammo and only use WWB for practice and top-brand hollow points for personal defense. I haven’t had any problems in a while, so whether it was (a) cheap ammo, (b) not cleaning it well enough, (c) limp wristing, (d) the gun just needed to be broken in, or (e) some combination of the above, the gun seems to be working far better now. I don’t think it was a serious design or production flaw that needed repairing by Taurus.

In any event, I’m not sure if or how long I’ll be keeping this gun. I want to get an HK P2000 SK because it is one of the few truly ambidextrous pistols on the market.

]]> By: Mart http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/2007/07/22/second-range-report-taurus-pt111-revisited-200th-post/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Mart Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:12:00 +0000 http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/?p=202#comment-114 I would not accept that level of reliability. I've been thinking about buying a PT111 for a long time, but this seems to be a consistent issue among owners and I can't justify spending that kind of money on a gun that is going to FTE on me. I'd definitely send it back to Taurus and see what they can do. If they can manage to get it down to about 1 FTE per 150 rounds, I'd consider it acceptable. Don't run cheap ammo through it and try different mags, and if the problems don't clear up, I'd trade it in. I would not accept that level of reliability. I’ve been thinking about buying a PT111 for a long time, but this seems to be a consistent issue among owners and I can’t justify spending that kind of money on a gun that is going to FTE on me. I’d definitely send it back to Taurus and see what they can do. If they can manage to get it down to about 1 FTE per 150 rounds, I’d consider it acceptable. Don’t run cheap ammo through it and try different mags, and if the problems don’t clear up, I’d trade it in.

]]> By: Geoffrey Allan Plauche http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/2007/07/22/second-range-report-taurus-pt111-revisited-200th-post/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Geoffrey Allan Plauche Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:11:00 +0000 http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/?p=202#comment-95 Thanks for the advice. WWB is not going to be my personal/home defense ammo, but I've settled on it as my practice ammo.<br/><br/>I just blogged a new <a HREF="http://veritasnoctis.blogspot.com/2007/09/gun-updates.html" REL="nofollow">post</a> briefly describing my 3rd range visit. I didn't fire as many rounds as you suggested, but I did fire 144 - with no problems whatsoever.<br/><br/>I've probably put about 400 rounds through it all together by now. Aside from my no longer using cheap and crappy ammunition, perhaps it is just finally getting broken in. Thanks for the advice. WWB is not going to be my personal/home defense ammo, but I’ve settled on it as my practice ammo.

I just blogged a new post briefly describing my 3rd range visit. I didn’t fire as many rounds as you suggested, but I did fire 144 – with no problems whatsoever.

I’ve probably put about 400 rounds through it all together by now. Aside from my no longer using cheap and crappy ammunition, perhaps it is just finally getting broken in.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/2007/07/22/second-range-report-taurus-pt111-revisited-200th-post/comment-page-1/#comment-94 Anonymous Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:14:00 +0000 http://www.veritasnoctis.net/blog/?p=202#comment-94 Geoffery:<br/><br/>I don't think that any gun which is not 100% reliable all of the time should be used for self defense. Take the PT-111 to the range and shoot at least 200-300 rounds using WWB and pay close attention to what you are doing. Clean the gun before you go but not at the range. If, at the end of your "tests" it still gives you problems, send it back to Taurus.<br/>Best wishes,<br/>Clyde Geoffery:

I don’t think that any gun which is not 100% reliable all of the time should be used for self defense. Take the PT-111 to the range and shoot at least 200-300 rounds using WWB and pay close attention to what you are doing. Clean the gun before you go but not at the range. If, at the end of your “tests” it still gives you problems, send it back to Taurus.
Best wishes,
Clyde

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